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[otvos-bruno]

"After a week of exclusive photos and videos from the world of cinema, we reinvite you to discover more about the world's thinnest automatic watch, the Piaget Altiplano.

In addition to white gold, the Piaget Altiplano watch is available in 18 carat pink gold. The same ultra-thin self-winding mechanical movement, the 1208P, equips this exceptional timepiece"

[otvos-bruno]

Caliber 1003, launched in 1955 for Vacheron Constantin's 200th anniversary. It was then and is still today the world's thinest manual winding movement at a mere 1.64mm thick. Today Vacheron Constantin builds this caliber in gold.

[otvos-bruno]

http://piaget.watchprosite.com/show-for ... ti-706163/
Cred ca Piaget 1200/1208 este cel mai subtire automatic

[Alfie]

Cel mai subtire automatic a fost Lassale auto preluat ulterior de Lemania(387) si utilizat la scara mica de catre Piaget si surprinzator Vacheron care lupta de multa vreme pentru suprematie in acest domeniu dar tot timpul cu calibre preluate de la altii.

gasiti mai multe aici

http://www.timeclubromania.ro/ceasuri-j ... 5&start=15

scuze pentru trimitere ,nu inteleg de ce ar fi o problema,fac asta deoarece sunt o multime de materiale acolo dedicate Lassale(inclusiv Lemania)

Lassale (manual) a avut 1.20 mm inaltime,Vacheron 1003 (ebauche Jaeger Le Coultre ) este sensibil mai inalt dupa cum vedeti .


962 Piaget mechanical movement. Height 1.35 mm.
1963 Favre-Leuba presents the 'Bivouac' (cal. FL 251) with a mechanical movement. Height 2.95 mm.
1965 Buren introduces an automatic watch 'Intramatic' (cal. 1280). Height 2.85 mm.
1972 In May, Nepro launches the 87 LCD module. Height 4.5 mm. The flattest module in the world at that time. ITT USA presents a quartz watch. Height 3.3 mm.
1973 Piaget issues a quartz watch. Height 3.1 mm. Universal-Genève releases the 'Golden Shadow', 'Ultra Skin Automatic'. Automatic watch made of 18 K gold. Height of the movement 2.5 mm, total height of the watch 3.45 mm. (Ref.no. 174100)
1975 'White Shadow Quartz', equipped with a Socrem SO2 motor and an IC by RCA. (Ref.no. 174103)
1976 Girrard Perregaux presents a movement (cal. GP 641) in Basle. Height 3.7 mm.
1977 Seiko Quartz. Height 2.9 mm (cal. 7830).
1978 Citizen Quartz EX1, caliber 7900. Without a battery the height of the movement is 0.98 mm, with battery 2.25 mm. The complete watch with gold case has a height of 4.1 mm. The price was between 6,000 and 10,000 Swiss Francs.
In June, the Seiko Quartz (cal. 9320A) is presented to the press by Seiko. Movement's height: without battery 0.90 mm and with battery 0.95 mm. Entire watch 2.5 mm.
Girrard-Perregaux: Ladies' quartz watch. Height 2.9 mm. Diameter 13 mm. At that moment the smallest movement in the world by volume. (Cal. GP 520)
1979 ETA SA, an affiliate of Ebauches SA markets the 'Delirium I'. Height 1.98 mm (cal. 999). A special edition 'Delirium II' with a height of 1.44 mm is launched in 1980, shortly after the Omega Dinosaure (height 1.48 mm). As with the other models in the Delirium collection, the back of the case is used as the main plate in which other parts of the movement are set. Extra flat battery Renata 32, height 1.1 mm. On the 12th of January this technical masterpiece was presented in Paris by Eterna. In the quest for the flattest watch possible, Eterna presented the golden 'Espada Quartz'. The Concord Watch Company marketed this watch under the name 'Concord Delirium' and Longines made it famous under the name 'Feuille d'Or' (cal. L795.2).
Bulova introduces the thinnest LCD watch in the world, height 1.86 mm, the 'Phantom', for a price of US $ 5000.
Seiko quartz, cal. 9320B, is released in July. Height of the movement: 0.95 mm. Entire watch 1.79 mm.
Seiko quartz cal. 9300A. Height, with battery, 1.6 mm. Movement 1.5 mm.
1980 Dinosaure of Omega cal. 1355. Height 1.48 mm. Ladies' 'Delirium III'. Height 1.68 mm, presented January 11th 1980) 'Delirium IV' 0.98 mm. Basle 1980. Again marketed by Concord, Longines and Eterna. The sapphire crystal is only 0.19 mm thick and the battery, produced by Renata SA, has a thickness of 0.80 mm. Instead of hands there are revolving discs on which hands are printed.
1981 'Delirium V' and 'VI' of ETA in the 'Magique' of Omega. Height 2.58 mm. Cal. 1356 and 1357. The first watches in the 'Delirium' series which are waterproof.
The Twin Time of Eterna contains two watches, an analogue one with hands and a digital one with LC display. The total height of this golden watch is 4.5 mm.
1982 Jaeger-LeCoultre. Quartz movement. Height 1.8 mm with a diameter of 6.8 mm (cal. 601).
1983 Seiko IE20, IE70, IE50: movement of 9.5 mm in diameter.
1984 'Flatline Combo' produced by ETA (cal. 985.331), 2.0 mm in height. 'Combo Dichroïque' also produced by ESA (cal. 988.311). Height 3.0 mm. and 'Combo Delirium', ETA (cal. 999.311). The 5A74 and 5A70 of Seiko is released in January. Height of the movement 1.3 mm.
1987 In June Citizen released cal. 7900. Height 1.5 mm.
1989 In June Seiko launches cal. 9A85A. The height of the watch without battery was 0.85 mm and with battery 1.43 mm, the thinnest ever made by Seiko. Limited production was in commemoration of the 20th anniversary of the 3500 caliber quartz wrist watch.

[Alfie]

Pardon Lassale preluat de Lemania ca Lemania 2010 nu Lemania 387
Graba strica treaba

inaltime automatic 2.08 mm

[Alfie]

Da
Nu am vazut acest subiect mai devreme din pricina evaluarilor
Pacate subiectul este interesant si merita sa fie legat cu discutiile pe aceeasi tema din trecutul nu foarte indepartat.
Asa a fost nevoie de un topic nou iar informatia "veche" a fost pierduta in marea evaluarilor si a altor porcarii.

[razvyy]

Trebuie legat, insa daca se poate... cu informatii mai corecte.
In 1962 Piaget 9P deja avea vechime si cu siguranta mai mult de 1.35 mm.
Sursa citata pomeneste de Favre Leuba 251 insa "uita" de JLC 638.
Sau multe alte informatii, pentru ca au fost destule 2 randuri pentru a-mi da seama ca informatia este incompleta, putand duce la interpretari.

[Alfie]

Nu sustin sursa amintita ,e doar informatie care ajuta la cronologie(parca lipseste si Lassale de acolo)si nici "ei /sursa nu sustin" ca au dreptatea suprema....
a fost doar o parte din ce gasiti in link,nimic mai mult
Sustin doar ca Lassale au fost cele mai...
asta pana la proba contrarie.
Sunt prins in evaluari si cand am timp am sa "consult sursele" si in masura posibilitatilor biblioteca
Pana una alta subiectul este diferit de cele discutate (ping pong ) si dupa razboi multi viteji se arata
Felicitari celui care a readus Lassale in discutie,despre asta-i vorba nu-i asa?
Treceti peste asta ,tot ce vedeti in postul meu este inutil si mai mult fals
Autolub cel mai usor???Cine spune asta?E doar o banuiala?
Asta nu ai vazut Razvyy??
Piaget 20 P este Lassale ,daca este adevarat ce spune "o sursa" Piaget a cumparat stocul de mecanisme Lassale,ceasurile montate aflate pe stoc la momentul cumpararii numelui de catre Seiko a ramas proprietarilor/familiei/"apropiatilor" si a reaparut la vanzare la sfarsitul secolului trecut ,Seiko cumparand doar numele Lassale utilizand-ul ulterior pentru o noua linie "thin quartz"
Asa este informatia in limba straina este nu tocmai corecta,sunt insa acolo multe repere care va ajuta prin utilizarea functiei google sa aflat mai mult despre competitia "cel mai cel" indiferent de segment (quartz ori mecanic/auto)
Sunt sigur ca nu avem toate aceste informatii "la noi"

[Alfie]

Razvyy iti raspund la provocarile sterile maine.
Astazi din pacate nu mai pot ,sunt ocupat pana peste cap ,trebuie sa invat (examene grele)
Multumesc pentru intelegere.

[Claudiu]

Pe mine asta m-a intrigat:

http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/US/en/h ... ement.html

[Achraf]

Pe mine asta m-a intrigat:

http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/US/en/h ... ement.html

Claudiu, asta am scris si eu pe pagina anterioara:

Cel mai mic ar putea fi LeCoultre 101 Duoplan 2 x 6.25''' http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db. ... oultre_101

As mai sublinia ca deja vorbindu-se despre Lemania 1200 eu nu am mai inclus in discutie aceste aspect, trecand direct la Piaget (apoi Alfie a facut legatura cu Lassale). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Lassale
In plus credeam ca vorbim doar de calibre mecanice / automatice. Cele quartz (subtiri) le-am lasat la o parte.
Piaget 9P / 9P2 are h=2.0mm / 9.0'''

[Alfie]

Cum a ajuns Piaget sa detina pentru o vreme exclusivitatea pentru cele mai subtiri mecanisme vedeti mai jos.
Legatura Piaget-Heuer-N Lemania (Piaget a fost pentru scurta vreme "tatal bun" pentru ambii producatori )este mai putin cunoscuta si deosebit de "alambicata"
Ce legatura are Lemania (N) cu Lassale gasiti in linkul wiki din postul anterior.

The company was started by Alfed Lugrin in 1884, specifically as a movement maker and provider of complications for simpler pocket watches. Chronographs, repeaters and so forth. It stayed as such until at least the late 1920s, when it changed to Lemania Lugrin SA under the management of Marius Meylan, Alfred Lugrin’s son-in-law. It started producing watches under its own name. A significant development happened in 1932 when Lemania joined SSIH (Societé Suisse pour L’Industrie Horologère), an agglomeration of Omega and Tissot which had been founded 2 years earlier. SSIH was a rationalisation undertaken in order to combine the forces of these large manufacturers in the face of the great depression, which was threatening the industry as a whole, and sole companies in particular. The other such group was AUSAG.

The co-operative inside SSIH led to what could be called Lemania’s most fruitful alliance, the provision of movements to Omega, most notably for their mechanical chronographs. Lemania also flourished in its own right, and designed and produced some notable movements and watches in this alliance, notably chronographs for British and Commonwealth armed forces – it could be considered its “golden age”. It certianly represents the majority of its history, lasting until the '80s.

Lemania became Nouvelle Lemania when it demerged from the ailing SSIH (which had become SMH when SSIH joined with AUSAG) in 1981. It was a management buyout from the group with the funds provided intended to prop up SMH, which had been ravaged over the course of the 70s by economic conditions, high costs, uneconomic technical innovation and severe competition from Japan.

The buyout was part-funded by Piaget, who then went on to buy Heuer in 1982. Here started Lemania’s second major alliance with a large manufacturer, which only lasted until a short while after Heuer was sold to the TAG group in 1985.
Lemania carried on, but the industry was not what it once was, and it was bought out by new investors in 1991. These new owners (Bahrain Investcorp) already owned Breguet, and Lemania’s last alliance with a large retail brand was effectively cemented, but Lemania still flourished and produced new movements for others, as well as an increasing amount for Breguet, who had previously not really used many Lemania movements.

The death knell for Lemania was the Investcorp sale to the Swatch group in 1999. The management seemed hell-bent on the Lemania name disappearing, and decreed that one of its more successful products, the 5100 movement, was not to be sold outside the Swatch Group – strange, since just about no manufacturer inside the group used the movement.
Swatch also had plans for Breguet, and the Lemania organisation was subsumed into the Breguet brand, becoming their in-house movement manufacturer, and avoiding the need for Breguet to out-source.