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Ce mecanism are Junghans-ul?
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ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?
Breguet, Chopard etc. (72.000) - www.ceasornicar.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14238 :arrow:
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ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?
Da, Breguet :

http://www.breguet.com/3880ST-H2-3XV

http://www.ablogtoread.com/breguet-clas ... -hands-on/


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otvos-bruno scrie:Ce mecanism are Junghans-ul?

Nu stiu, da' am sa aflu.

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ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?
Breguet, Chopard etc. (72.000) - http://www.ceasornicar.ro/forum/viewtop ... =4&t=14238 :arrow:

Parca am citit ca Chopard-ul au facut ceva studii pentru un mecanism de 10 Hz, da' s-au dat batuti ...si au ajuns la 8 Hz ?

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ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?

De Bethune lucreaza in aceasta directiune :

http://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-ind ... scapement/

http://www.europastar.com/magazine/high ... later.html

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otvos-bruno scrie:Ce mecanism are Junghans-ul?

Nu stiu, da' am sa aflu.

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Am gasit!
Junghans Meister with cal. J815.1=Peseux 7001
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/new-jun ... 73579.html
De vanzare aici: http://www.chrono24.ro/junghans/meister ... rerIds=134
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Nicu scrie:Iar Junghans-ul + Moser-ul ......ceasuri simple, de costum...sau de fripturi :D ?

Eu m-am bucurat cind am cumparat Orient-ul 60th Anniversary, dar cind ma uit la cele doua, parca as deschide fereastra...si as arunca Orientu' !

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Exact asta simt si eu. Acum, parca nu mai este tot atat de frumos Orient-ul (daca nu il aveam poate era mai frumos :) ).
Ce mecanism are Junghans-ul?
Deja s-a raspuns.


Singurul "defect" al Junghans-ului (daca tii neaparat sa gasesti unul) este faptul ca are secundarul cam sus, dar asa este pozitionat la Peseux 7001.
Iar Moser-ul are si el un mare defect - pretul.
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ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?
Ar mai fi de adăugat şi:

http://www.tagheuerex.com/tag-heuer-360 ... tches.html
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Razvee scrie:
ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?
Ar mai fi de adăugat şi:

http://www.tagheuerex.com/tag-heuer-360 ... tches.html
Da, exista (s-a mai discutat undeva pe forum, dar nu gasesc acum).
Pe langa TAG-Heuer (360.000) semnalat de Razvee, ar mai fi asa (superior ca frecventa deja consacratelor calibre la 36.000 BpH):

# Audemars Piguet Jules Audemars 43200 A/h
# Breguet Type XXII 72000 A/h
# Chopard 72000 A/h


Ieri am descoperit ca si Omega a avut o serie de ceasuri (timer) la 36.000 ... si chiar mai mult!
Prezint 'in premiera' :lol: aceste date, care arata ca cel putin variatiuni Omega aveau o frecventa de 360k:

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Face Chopard mecanisme cu 10 Hz ( 72000 bph ) ?

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Nicu scrie:Face Chopard mecanisme cu 10 Hz ( 72000 bph ) ?

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Asa se pare!

Chopard 10 Hz escapement
http://breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =6&t=11858

http://www.horologycrazy.com/2009/08/ch ... ement.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/72000-bph-386630.html
http://www.worldone-journal.com/cgi-bin ... 6249662569

Iar aici avem inregistrarea si descrierea patentului celor de la Chopard:
HOROLOGICAL MOVEMENT COMPRISING A HIGH OSCILLATION FREQUENCY REGULATING DEVICE
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2012/0127836.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20120127836.pdf
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Un alt fragment de pe un forum in care se discuta despre proiectul Chopard 72k (10 Hz)

Karl Friedrich Schefele and Chopard L.U.C create a 10 Hertz Escapement!!!
http://revo-online.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4473

"In conversations with Pierre Gygax of UN, Giulio Papi of APR&P, Raphael Bertschy of Zenith and Stephane Belmont of JLC we discovered that they were all working on ways the elevate the vibrational speed of the mechanical watch. You can read all these interviews in the June / July edition of Revolution.

But Chopard L.U.C has beat them all to it... This escapement is twice as fast as the what is currently the fastest industrialized escapement, that found in the Zenith El Primero. In conversations with the technical top guns above - aerodynamic turbulence caused by the balance, lubrication factors and power were all major hurdles!!!

This is Chopard's press release. What can we say Bravo! Mr. Scheufele and the whole L.U.C team...

Chopard Technologies S.A. develops a trail-blazing high-frequency escapement

Chopard Technologies S.A. in Fleurier, the development unit within the Chopard group, is currently finalising the conception of an innovative high-frequency escapement capable of reaching a cadence of 8 to 10 Hertz. Two patents have already been filed to protect this technological feat based on a conception that is entirely new to the watch industry.

According to various theories on movement rates, the higher the frequency of balance oscillations, the more accurately a watch will run. A traditional mechanical watch has a frequency of 4 Hertz or four oscillations per second, which represents four to-and-fro swings of the balance in one second or 28,800 vibrations per hour. The feat accomplished by Chopard’s R&D division consists in increasing this frequency to a cadence at least twice that standard level.

The escapement developed by Chopard Technologies reaches frequencies of between 8 to 10 Hertz (respectively 57,600 and 72,000 vibrations per hour), meaning that the time between the “tick” and the “tock” is a mere five-hundredths of a second.
Wearers of such a watch will be able to admire the smooth jerk-free motion of the seconds hand.

This escapement has been created using innovative processes providing solutions and designs that could not be achieved by traditional mechanical engineering.

Two patents applications have been filed and numerous laboratory tests are in progress in order to further fine-tune this exceptional innovation."
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Eu am gasit in " Financial Times" urmatorul articol, din care am inteles ca au lasat mecanismul de 10 Hz pe linia a doua :

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ttc scrie:Exista ceasuri cu frecventa mai mare decat 8Hz / 57600 bph?
Da, Breguet :

http://www.breguet.com/3880ST-H2-3XV

http://www.ablogtoread.com/breguet-clas ... -hands-on/


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Ce miscare super-fluida are secundarul Breguet-ului!!!!

Daca as avea un ceas ca asta pe mina, ar trebui sa ma inchid in casa, numai la el m-as binocla. Adio condus sau biciclit!
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